"It goes without saying."

Well, if it does, you wouldn't be saying it, would you? The phrase automatically cancels itself out. It manages to invalidate both itself and whatever else it gets attached to.

The only way to possibly use it is to say "It should go without saying..."

I read that in an otherwise very amusing book, over breakfast. Conversational use is one thing, but in my opinion, it's a particularly sloppy phrase in writing, because the author creates and controls the entire world, inside that text--writing, the author has every chance to actually design a scenario in which something can "go without saying", and conversely, in which anything can be said.

To say something and negate it in the same line, well, that author needs a better editor.

From: [identity profile] daphnep.livejournal.com


Nooo...I don't believe I have. It probably goes without saying that I should check it out, then. ;)
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From: [identity profile] evilegg.livejournal.com


You'd love it.
But that goes without saying or I wouldn't have asked.
It's written for early tweens, I think, but I didn't read it until I was 19 or 20 and one of Sam's GF's forced it on my entire family.
From wiki..."The book is full of puns, and many events, like Milo's sudden jump to the Island of Conclusions, are the consequences of taking English language idioms literally."
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From: [identity profile] daphnep.livejournal.com


Ha, ha...okay, I'll Amazon it. (if Movies get Netflixed, books can be Amazoned.)

From: [identity profile] kimatha.livejournal.com


That was my exact thought. It was the little cart with no apparent engine. "Be very quiet, for it goes without saying."

From: [identity profile] ernunnos.livejournal.com

Pet peeve.


"It goes without" instead of "It should go without".
"I could care less" instead of "I couldn't care less".

I'm a geek, I understand the urge to abbreviate. Most of my life is acronyms. But could we at least abbreviate in ways that don't completely change the meaning?

From: [identity profile] daphnep.livejournal.com

Re: Pet peeve.


ME TOO! I hate that one! In my head, I have to repeat it correctly to put the meaning right. (Hmm, maybe I'm going a little OCD, myself.)

From: [identity profile] dear-amaranth.livejournal.com

Re: Pet peeve.


Yeah, I was going to bring up the "I could care less." That bugs the HELL out of me. I think people use it without thinking about it, and they have no idea what it means.

From: [identity profile] zophine.livejournal.com

Re: Pet peeve.


Add one to your list for me:

"It begs the question" (ask LD about this one if you want to hear a fun rant!)

And one that I can never figure out for myself: Is it "you have another thing coming" or "you have another think coming"? As in, "If you think that this is what happened, you have another ____ coming!"

From: [identity profile] daphnep.livejournal.com

Re: Pet peeve.


I never quite got "it begs the question." I don't know what it's supposed to mean. Without looking it up, I seem to remember it's one of those that feels like it should go one way but actually means the opposite of what it sounds like.

Hence, in my confusion, I run the other direction.

And the second is "think". In my head, reading it, it's said with a definite redneck drawl: "Ya gotta 'nutter think comin'!"

Yeah. Say it like that. Then it makes PERFECT sense. ;)

From: [identity profile] cjsmith.livejournal.com


Another one that bugs me along those same lines is the phrase "That is all." "That" was "all" until that last sentence got tacked on, now wasn't it? And now "that" is no longer "all." Hmpf.

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I hate 'To tell you honestly'.

Oh, good. You are lying to me the rest of the time?

From: [identity profile] cynnerth.livejournal.com


Ha, yeah! That one catches my ear a lot.

That goes along with overuse of the word 'actually'.
"Is Mr. Smith in?"
"Actually, he's in a meeting right now."
Actually? Really? Get outta town.

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"After I quit hitting the crack pipe and found Jesus, my life did a complete three-sixty."

From: [identity profile] lxbean.livejournal.com


In a similar vein (but not of the pun variety), I'm instantly wary of any statement following the claim, "Everybody knows that..."

Then why the holy eff you see kay do you need to tell me?!

Oh, and "Don't take this the wrong way." How about you find a way to say it the *right* way? Sullen was fond of that phrase. I always wanted to say, "then stop talking."
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